This is a Power 30 Interview 1993 with Whitfield Crane and Dave Fortman of Ugly Kid Joe. What makes this great is both Whit and Dave try their best to make the interviewer uncomfortable as they pretty much just hit on her the whole time.
The CMJ Music Marathon is a week long music business and entertainment conference in New York City. The metal community also has a huge presence at CMJ and this year is no different. As I write this we are on day 3 and last night Richie Cavalera’s band Incite played an amazing show at The Wick in Brooklyn. The week started with a 30th anniversary performance by Doro Pesch and some friends like Bobby “Blitz” Ellsworth from Overkill and Jeff Waters from Annihilator at The Gramercy Theater. On Tuesday though there was a panel called Reinventing the Steele: Finding Metal’s Next Big Band. Featuring myself and some other amazing people in the industry. Here’s the re-cap from Metal Insider‘s Bram Teitelman.
Pretty much every discussion about metal among those in the industry comes down to “who’s the next X?” Not the ’80s punk band X, but whoever the next arena-filling marquee act will be, be it the next Metallica, Pantera, or even Mastodon. That was the topic for the metal panel at today’s CMJ Music Marathon convention, which kicked off a week of metal in New York. Titled Reinventing the Steel: Finding Metal’s Next Big Bands, the panel was moderated by Kodi McKinney, manager of promotion and marketing at Metal Insider‘s parent company, The Syndicate. It was rounded out by a pair of label executives (Good Fight Entertainment founder Carl Severson and Spinefarm director of A&R Darren Dallessio), a syndicated metal show host and active rock radio music director (Hangar 19′s Andrew “Cutter” Puyleart) and Revolver magazine’s assistant editor Sammi Chichester.
The answer to the rhetorical question posed wasn’t specifically answered, nor did it need to be. Dallessio pointed to Bring me the Horizon, a band that started out making music that was anything but mass appeal, but have built up to the point where they’re headlining Warped Tour and making music that can, for the first time be played on commercial radio stations. Meanwhile, Avenged Sevenfold are well on their way to being able to play arenas. Severson shouted out Clutch, saying they’ve continually built up their audience, and while they’ll never have a gold album, they’re very successful at what they do.
Via their magazine and radio station, respectively, Chichester and Cutter serve as tastemakers, which was another topic of discussion. Chichester said that while Revolver is a mainstream metal magazine, their goal is to turn the Slipknot fan on to something new they might like. The magazine will let their personal taste make it into the magazine, but will try to present it in a way so that it’s alongside something else familiar. Cutter said that’s a little bit harder for an active rock and metal audience, who’s attitude is “we like what we like and fuck you if you don’t.” However, he aid the lines have blurred since the ’80s and ’90s, when hardcore and metal had no crossover. As far as who he considers tastemakers, Severson said the YouTube channels of Rise Records and Sumerian Records will see bands get millions of plays nearly overnight and are a good indicator of who the next popular band might be, at least on their respective labels.
When asked what kind of band they’re looking to sign, Good Fight’s Severson and Spinefarm’s Dallesio had different answers. Severson said he’d rather have a band that might be a little rough around the edges but was willing to put in a lot of work, take advice, and be shaped into a better band, as opposed to one that might have instant hype, but no work ethic. Dallessio said he was looking for bands that aren’t putting limitations on themselves, or identifying themselves with a particular scene, but are “trying different things and creating great music.”
With Slipknot’s .5, The Gray Chapter out earlier today, that album, and the expectations it had for the industry, was discussed. Why are they such a force? Well, intentional or not, they didn’t oversaturate the market. While bands like Five Finger Death Punch haven’t gotten off the road and have released four albums in between the time Slipknot released their last album, Slipknot are choosing their tours carefully, and haven’t released an album in six years.
As to where the panel looks for new music, McKinney, a Brooklyn native, stated that he enjoys going to a show where he might not know any of the bands. Cutter, who lives in Wisconsin, doesn’t have the ability to do that, so he pays attention to social media, the Spotify top 100 for metal, and listens to the people he has promoting records to him. Chichester listens to the labels as well. If a band or label is hiring a publicist, that helps show that there’s a concerted effort being made to break an artist. She also said that social media helps, so if you’re in a band looking to get Revolver coverage, you might want to get your socials up.
On this weekend’s Hangar 19 we are focusing on all the amazing metal bands playing Knotfest in California next weekend including Slipknot, Anthrax, Black Label Society, HELLYEAH! Napalm Death, Fear Factory, Prong, and many more. One of those bands is Testament, here is their In the Vault segment taken from them in the studio working on the album Practice What You Preach.
This weekend inside Hangar 19 we will preview and get you all fired up for the this week’s kick off of the current Judas Priest North American Tour with opening band Steel Panther. We will cranks up some choice live Priest tracks from previous Judas Priest live records and special editions like Priest….Live! and Unleashed in the East. Plus we’ll hear some tasty Steel Panther cuts and get some words from the Metal God himself Rob Halford.
Comedian/actor/game show host Drew Carey must be quite the metal head because a few week’s ago we heard Dave Mustaine of Megadeth’s appearance on the show and this week we are going In the Vault with Motorhead’s appearance on the show.
Speaking of mainstream pop culture icons being metal heads did you know that eccentric pop star Lady Gaga is actually metal head? I swear we’ve spotted her at a couple of different Slayer shows over the years and during a recent Redit she explained who her top metal bands were. This week’s Power Set will feature those four bands. They are Metallica, Iron Maiden, AC/DC and Black Sabbath. That’s not a bad list at all.(Fan submitted art for the Gaga song “Heavy Metal Lover” uploaded to deviant art)
Now mentioning Slayer of course they have a long history and one of the stranger parts is the story of their drummer situation. Going back and forth between Dave Lombardo and Paul Bostaph. Since Paul took over the drumming duties again were is Dave Lombardo? Well he’s playing in a band called Philm who just released their 2nd album. This week’s Then & Now will feature an old Slayer track plus a new Philm track.
Then there is this week’s Heavy Metal Soundtrack recomendation that also features Slayer, but it’s their version of Iron Butterfly’s “In-a-Gada-Davida.” The movie it’s from is 1987′s Less Than Zero starring Robert Downy Jr.
It’s another 3 hours of classic heavy metal inside Hangar 19.
Believe it or not no member of Anthrax has joined us in the Hangar since we launched, well this weekend that changes as bassist Frank Bello steps up fresh off the Motorboat cruise with Motorhead. Anthrax have also just released their live concert film Chili on Hell. Frank has stories to tell and we have Anthrax music to crank up.
(Picture of Frank Bello from Anthrax.com)
Speaking of amazing metal bass players it was 28 years ago that the world lost Metallica bassist Cliff Burton. Cliff is widely regarded as one of the greatest metal bassists to ever live. We will revisit Cliff ‘em All for this week’s In the Vault.
(Cliff ‘em All artwork courtesy of Metallica.com.)
Also if you missed the news recently AC/DC founding member and rhythm guitarist plus songwriter Malcolm Young has dementia so bad that he is no longer playing with the band and has sat out recording their new album plus will not be joining them on tour. So we’ll dedicate a Power Set of some of the best Malcolm Young songs to the man and of course we wish him and his family the best.
(Image of Malcolm Young from AC/DC’s website)
Machine Head recently had a new song leaked entitled “Now We Die” but before it got out of hand the band decided to release upon the world themselves, and we’re happy they did. We will debut the tune as part of a Machine Head Then & Now that will also feature a classic from their debut Burn My Eyes.
(Now We Die artwork courtesy of Nuclear Blast Records)
Finally our soundtrack recommendation this week goes back to the video game world. It’s only fitting that when the makers of Splatterhouse, one of the original horror themed video games, remade the game in 2010 that it included a soundtrack featuring metal heavy weights like Lamb of God, Mastodon and the Cavalera brothers.
All this and yes another three hours of old school metal served exactly the way you want it….LOUD!